From: Digestifier To: Linux-Activists@news-digests.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Activists@news-digests.mit.edu Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 22:15:15 EDT Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #70 Linux-Activists Digest #70, Volume #2 Tue, 14 Apr 92 22:15:15 EDT Contents: Re: Problems compiling df and system utils under gcc 2.1 (Daniel A. Martin) Re: tar files on floppy. (Jim Winstead Jr.) can't compile selection/mouse driver (Jiansheng Zhao) Samsung Sync 4 modes - reply for (Steven Kraft) Re: GCC2.1 (Wonderful !) (Karl R. Buck) bootlin.com (boot linux from HD) works well! (Jiansheng Zhao) Re: tar files on floppy. (A. V. Le Blanc) GNU Fortran (A. V. Le Blanc) Re: Needed: a guide to setting up swap space. (A. V. Le Blanc) Re: Patching Bootimage disks (A. V. Le Blanc) Dr DOS and fdisk 0.91 (A. V. Le Blanc) include/linux and include/asm (was Re: kernel building problems) (A. V. Le Blanc) compress and tar, fixed, at tsx-11 (Michael K. Johnson) Re: tar files on floppy. (David Engel) Where is system-0.95a.tar.Z?? (William A Jones) Where is system-0.95a.tar.Z?? (William A Jones) charset oriented GUI (Brian Chojnowski) jipped zip! (jgifford@attmail.com) mtools binaries for linux request! rcs, what does it do? (jgifford@attmail.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dam1@ra.msstate.edu (Daniel A. Martin) Subject: Re: Problems compiling df and system utils under gcc 2.1 Date: 14 Apr 92 23:33:06 GMT Thanks Jim and David...those sure were some quick replies... -- Danny Martin : dam1@Ra.MsState.Edu ------------------------------ From: jwinstea@jarthur.claremont.edu (Jim Winstead Jr.) Subject: Re: tar files on floppy. Date: 14 Apr 92 23:04:18 GMT In article <1992Apr14.200059.27535@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil> rdc30@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (LCDR Michael E. Dobson) writes: >I am just about finished with linking everything in 2.1shared-A.tar.Z with >shared libs and symlinking into /usr/bin. A word of caution, DON'T use >shared libs or symlinks on anything in /bin or /etc if / and /usr are on >different partitions. They won't work until /usr is mounted. Keep a good >bootimage floppy and root floppy handy just in case. As long as /lib is on your root partition, and /lib/lib92.04.* is actually present in that directory, and *not* a sym-link, you can use shared binaries in /bin just fine. /lib/lib92.04.* really shouldn't be symlinked.... The idea of keeping a good boot disk and root disk is valid, though. I've had to go back to mine on a few occasions. (Usually the boot disk, when I screw up a kernel compilation.) -- Jim Winstead Jr. (CSci '95) | "Catch a fish!" Harvey Mudd College | -Geddy Lee, jwinstea@jarthur.Claremont.EDU | San Diego Sports Arena Disclaimer: Mine, not theirs! | January 20, 1992 ------------------------------ From: zhao@unixg.ubc.ca (Jiansheng Zhao) Subject: can't compile selection/mouse driver Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:42:40 GMT I almost got everything work with linux0.95c+. However, I still have trouble to compile selection to use a mouse. gcc2.1 compiled new kernel all right. When compiling selection-1.0 I got the following error message: stuff.c In function 'begsel' stuff.c:73: 'TIOCLINUX' undeclared stuff.c:86 ... ... ... Maybe there is a simple fix for trained eyes, but I have been pulling my hair ,:). ------------------------------ Subject: Samsung Sync 4 modes - reply for From: kraft@gac.edu (Steven Kraft) Date: 14 Apr 92 18:20:15 -0600 Reply-To: kraft@gac.edu Sorry that I have to post this here in comp.os.linux, since it is not really relevant. But I need to answer mail from a fellow Linux enthusiast who doesn't know how to get a proper address on his mail. :-) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 421 Host maxwell not found for mailer ether. 550 David Darknell ... Host unknown !Are you able to use your SyncMaster 4 at 1280x1024 without problems? ! !David First let me say that the Samsung Syncmaster 4 is only advertised as a 1024*768 monitor. I don't use 1280*1024 for anything right now, but the test program supplied with the Orchid Fahrenheit 1280/D uses that mode successfully on my Syncmaster 4. It has flicker since it is 48Hz interlaced. I have to fiddle with the size and position knobs some to center the image. It is a bit coarse since the Syncmaster 4 is .31mm dot pitch. If you are looking for advice on finding a GOOD monitor for something serious like CAD at 1280*1024 I would suggest that you look elsewhere or you may be disappointed. Steven Kraft KRAFT@GAC.EDU Micro/Minicomputer Consultant, Comp Sci major Gustavus Adolphus College ------------------------------ From: kxb@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Karl R. Buck) Subject: Re: GCC2.1 (Wonderful !) Date: 14 Apr 1992 19:00:53 -0500 johnsonm@stolaf.edu (Michael K. Johnson) writes: >Please, don't consider 1.40 retired -- It is smaller -- Not all the >features, and I am _very_ glad that 2.x is out, and I am sure that I >will switch some day. But right now I want something small, and I >simply don't yet need 2.x's features. I don't think that I am >alone... I'm not sure about this, but once you have completely recompiled everything to use shared libs, you should have a savings in disk space. Does anyone have any figures on how much space is saved when using shared libraries? -- Karl Buck, kxb@matt.ksu.edu :) ------------------------------ From: zhao@unixg.ubc.ca (Jiansheng Zhao) Subject: bootlin.com (boot linux from HD) works well! Date: 14 Apr 92 23:48:19 GMT Thanks to coutant@imag.imag.fr, now I can boot linux from my hard drive (dev/hdb2) directly. I used mutiple config.sys files and left autoexec.bat empty when booting linux. There is only one line needed in config.sys file: SHELL=c:\bootlin.com c:\etc\boot95c (boot image file). I used to have boot-image floppy handy when starting linux, not any more. ------------------------------ From: zlsiial@uts.mcc.ac.uk (A. V. Le Blanc) Subject: Re: tar files on floppy. Date: 14 Apr 92 08:03:55 GMT In article <1992Apr13.104934.5745@ericsson.se> etxlli@eos.ericsson.se (Lars Lindner) writes: > >When I have both boot and root images installed on HD and i want to >install more SW downloaded as .tar.Z files, in what way vill i get >them on a floppy to be able to install them on my Linux machine. If you have both Linux and MS-DOS on the same machine, the simplest course of action is to use mtools (i.e., mread, mcopy, or mtype) to access them. If you do not have both Linux and MS-DOS on the same machine, the simplest course of action is to copy the files to a dos disk, then use mtools to read the floppy. >* Shall i use "rawrite" from DOS to put the files on floppy? The 'rawrite' program is intended for use with disk images. It CAN write a tar file to a disk, and in fact this is how I originally installed Linux on my machine, but it is probably simpler to use copy and mtools. >* I rememer reading something like "Do not rawrite compressed files.". > Why?? The problem is, I think, that compress is written to read from a file or a stream, and that its I/O does not handle a raw read from a disk correctly. Anyway it didn't when I first installed Linux. For larger files, it would be best to split them up, copy them over on separate floppies, and concatenate them, that is, assuming that you have no DOS partition on your Linux machine. Unfortunately I cannot point you to any standard utility running on DOS which would do this painlessly. I did this once with a GNUish DOS dd, which I found in the anonymous ftp at, I believe, grape.ecs.clarkson.edu. -- Owen LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk ------------------------------ From: zlsiial@uts.mcc.ac.uk (A. V. Le Blanc) Subject: GNU Fortran Date: 14 Apr 92 11:17:24 GMT James Craig Burley, who is writing the GNU Fortran compiler, announced in a recent post that he is getting a machine to run Linux on. I expect that those who like FORTRAN (yeugh!) will find the Linux version should work fairly well if JCB is doing the development on a Linux system. -- Owen LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk ------------------------------ From: zlsiial@uts.mcc.ac.uk (A. V. Le Blanc) Subject: Re: Needed: a guide to setting up swap space. Date: 14 Apr 92 13:16:40 GMT In article <1992Apr13.145215@hammer.Prime.COM> cummings@hammer.Prime.COM (Kevin Cummings) writes: >In article <4rvjxcp@lynx.unm.edu>, caadams@leo.unm.edu (Clifford A Adams) writes: >> * Is there any way to tell how much swap space you are using or >> have left? > >Under SUNOS I do a "pstst -T". I haven't seen a LINUX command yet to tell me >how much is actually in use. The 'free' command from the 2.1ps distribution does this. If swapping is not enabled, it displays only memory; otherwise it displays two lines, one for memory and one for swap, each giving total, used, and free, and memory also mentioning how much is shared. Of course, you could always notice what swapon reports: Adding Swap: 1061 pages (4345856 bytes) swap-space or something of the sort. -- Owen LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk ------------------------------ From: zlsiial@uts.mcc.ac.uk (A. V. Le Blanc) Subject: Re: Patching Bootimage disks Date: 14 Apr 92 13:41:20 GMT In article kirsch@eaeps1.tuwien.ac.at (Rainer Kirsch) writes: >I got pmk32.zip from wuarchive.wustl.edu in order to patch my boot-disk to >tell about an alternative root device. (Wanting to change bytes no. 508 and >509). >But: It did not work. I checked the behaviour of pmk with the new formatted >disk - all ok. It seems, that the data of the boot information is too >different from that of an ordinary MS/DOS disk. So a "General disk error" is >reported. >Can anyone tell me an alternative mechanism for patching boot-disks? The best tool I have seen is the rdev program, from Werner Almesberger of ETH. With no arguments it prints out the first line for /etc/mtab, with one argument (a boot image) it prints the device configured as the root device, and with two arguments (boot image, device), it sets the device as the default root in the specified image. Source is available by anonymous ftp from several sites, and I think the program is on the latest root disks instead of rootdev. It is on the utilities disk of my 'interim' version. -- Owen LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk ------------------------------ From: zlsiial@uts.mcc.ac.uk (A. V. Le Blanc) Subject: Dr DOS and fdisk 0.91 Date: 14 Apr 92 12:27:58 GMT Someone reported recently that the Linux/Minix partitions created by my fdisk 0.91 are recognised as DOS partitions by Dr. DOS 6.0. I suspect what is happening is that Dr. DOS is ignoring the high bit of the type field. If this is so, it should certainly be reported to the Dr. DOS suppliers, since it will cause problems for MINIX users as well. The 8-bit field contains 00000001 for a DOS partition with a 12-bit FAT, and 10000001 for MINIX/Linux. You can always change to another number, e.g., 0x41, which I expect even Dr. DOS will let alone. A bug in the version of fdisk 0.91 makes it delete partition 5 incorrectly. This bug is fixed in fdisk 0.92, which I shall be distributing soon. -- Owen LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk ------------------------------ From: zlsiial@uts.mcc.ac.uk (A. V. Le Blanc) Subject: include/linux and include/asm (was Re: kernel building problems) Date: 14 Apr 92 14:58:22 GMT In article liljeber@kruuna.Helsinki.FI (Mika Pekka Liljeberg) writes: > >I compiled .95c first without and the with the HJ patch. There were no >problems either way. Then I moved the kernel includes under /usr/include/linux >with HJ's conv script. I hope this will become "official" practise, since >it makes everything ever so much simpler. How about it, Linus? :) The include files distributed with the kernel should not be part of normal C programs, and are closely linked with the kernel. For the purpose of compiling fundamental utilities, they are often useful, and for this reason I have usually put at least those in linux/include/linux and those in linux/include/asm into /usr/include/linux and /usr/include/asm respectively. I hope this will NOT become the official practice, in that I do NOT want to see these files 'distributed' with the compiler; this would cause too many problems coordinating versions. The include files used to compile Linux MUST be able to be changed as Linux changes, and so are distinct from the include files used by the C compiler. In any case, the only compilation about which I have heard that these include files caused a difficulty was the compilation of tools/build, which is, of course, not part of the kernel, but a tool used to put the kernel together. -- Owen LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk ------------------------------ From: johnsonm@stolaf.edu (Michael K. Johnson) Subject: compress and tar, fixed, at tsx-11 Reply-To: johnsonm@stolaf.edu (Michael K. Johnson) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 01:16:12 GMT OK, for everyone having trouble with tar &/| compress, read this: --- Please Post as Binaries --- These are compress and tar compiled using GCC 2.1 from fresh sources from prep.ai.mit.edu. They use the static libraries and should run on most versions of Linux. These should definately fix the problems people have been having with bad tars and compresses. I have tested this tar + compress against tar + compress as done on a RS/6000 box and have found no differences in the extracted files. Just to make sure, using sum or cksum -o 1 gives 37922 54 compress 09607 329 tar Enjoy! jim wiegand -- v5068u@vm.temple.edu -- jwiegand@moe.eng.temple.edu These files have been installed as tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/binaries/usr.bin/compress tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/binaries/usr.bin/tar they have not been compressed or tarred, for obvious chicken & egg reasons. enjoy. BTW, also tcsh 6.01 has been put in the same directory. Enjoy! michaelkjohnson johnsonm@stolaf.edu ------------------------------ From: david@ods.com (David Engel) Subject: Re: tar files on floppy. Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 01:12:18 GMT zlsiial@uts.mcc.ac.uk (A. V. Le Blanc) writes: : For larger files, it would be best to split them up, copy them over : on separate floppies, and concatenate them, that is, assuming that : you have no DOS partition on your Linux machine. Unfortunately I : cannot point you to any standard utility running on DOS which would : do this painlessly. I did this once with a GNUish DOS dd, which I : found in the anonymous ftp at, I believe, grape.ecs.clarkson.edu. I have a version of tar (really pax) which can read and write standard, multi-volume, Unix tar-files on floppy. I think it's available on Simtel (and mirrors) ... Yep, it is. Look for pax2exe.zip in the filutl area. David -- David Engel Optical Data Systems, Inc. david@ods.com 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081 ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux From: bjones@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William A Jones) Subject: Where is system-0.95a.tar.Z?? Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 01:29:09 GMT Last week a notice of system-0.95a.tar.Z was posted and I retreived the file. Since then I have had a hard disk crash and am now trying to rebuild my linux system but system-0.95a.tar.Z seems to have disappeared! Maybe I'm overlooking something (this archive indexes are all about a week old). Please repost the location or if it has been removed, tell me where I can get a copy (I really want the login and passwd routines -- they let me set up a multiuser system easily). Thanks, Bill ====================================================================== bjones@cambria.UUCP bjones@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu bjones@geo1s.mps.ohio-state.edu ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux From: bjones@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William A Jones) Subject: Where is system-0.95a.tar.Z?? Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 01:29:09 GMT Last week a notice of system-0.95a.tar.Z was posted and I retreived the file. Since then I have had a hard disk crash and am now trying to rebuild my linux system but system-0.95a.tar.Z seems to have disappeared! Maybe I'm overlooking something (this archive indexes are all about a week old). Please repost the location or if it has been removed, tell me where I can get a copy (I really want the login and passwd routines -- they let me set up a multiuser system easily). Thanks, Bill ====================================================================== bjones@cambria.UUCP bjones@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu bjones@geo1s.mps.ohio-state.edu ====================================================================== ------------------------------ From: chojnows@osiris (Brian Chojnowski) Subject: charset oriented GUI Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 01:06:36 GMT I have been writting some user interface routines, and have just started to add a crude windowing sytem to the bunch. There are a few multi-user games that I am writting that Linux would be ideal for, but I need a little graphics power. Since this is for Pc's, I figgured if I could devise a standard of somekind, and someone was able to provide me with source for a telnet program, and some idea as to where in the kernel or device drivers to look, I could implement a windowing environment that wrote directly to the video card. Because of my limited experience with Unix, given telnet source, I would have no problem modifying that, but I have no idea how to start on the kernel/device end. -Brian ------------------------------ From: jgifford@attmail.com Subject: jipped zip! Reply-To: jgifford@attmail.com Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 02:04:20 GMT I just went to all the trouble to get zip10ex.bin.tar.Z, and I was surprised to find that now I have to get the unzip-41.bin.tar.Z (2 day delay cause of ftpmail!) I have a question about tex: does it work for plain old dot-matrix printers? Also, is X public domain, or is it commercial? Is it possible to write a dos-emulator under Linux(you know, kinda like Soft-PC under Mac)? I have seen a couple of references to mice(mouses?) lately in the digests, is there a driver for a mouse for Linux? if so, where can I get it? Also, is there ANY other ftpmail server other than decwrl? (decwrl is nice, but sometimes I have to ask for a file 4-5 times before the transfer is successful.) well, nuff said for tonite. :-) jim gifford jgifford@attmail.com ...!uunet!attmail.com!jgifford ------------------------------ From: rattan@crs.cl.msu.edu () Subject: mtools binaries for linux request! Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 01:07:58 GMT Where can I find 'mtools' binary for linux? With Thanks, - ishwar(rattan@crs.cl.msu.edu) ------------------------------ From: jgifford@attmail.com Subject: rcs, what does it do? Reply-To: jgifford@attmail.com Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 02:06:52 GMT I have rcs, and I have no idea what it is for, can someone e-mail me and explain it? thanks, jim gifford jgifford@attmail.com ...!uunet!attmail.com!jgifford ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Activists-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux) via: Internet: Linux-Activists@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux tupac-amaru.informatik.rwth-aachen.de pub/msdos/replace The current version of Linux is 0.95a released on March 17, 1992 End of Linux-Activists Digest ******************************