From: Digestifier To: Linux-Activists@news-digests.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Activists@news-digests.mit.edu Date: Thu, 2 Apr 92 01:15:20 EST Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #6 Linux-Activists Digest #6, Volume #2 Thu, 2 Apr 92 01:15:20 EST Contents: False report of mounted disk change (A. V. Le Blanc) Re: fdisk -- please try this (A. V. Le Blanc) Re: fdisk -- please try this (A. V. Le Blanc) Re: where is dd??? (A. V. Le Blanc) Re: where is dd??? (A. V. Le Blanc) Linux - English pronunciation (Steve Pate) Re: What is linux? ("Alex R.N. Wetmore") linux usefulness? (Bill Heiser) Re: taylor-uucp and smail (Thomas David Rivers) Re: ST-506 and IDE (Epstein@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL) Re: What is linux? (Joel M. Hoffman) Which compiler(s) should I use to compile the kernel??? (Bill Bogstad) Joe editor. (Chuck Boyer) advice/proposal on the lp patch (Peter Williams 8169821) Re: swapping, how to enable? (Michael Pereckas) 386BSD & Linux Mirrored on kirk.bu.oz.au (David J. Hughes) 386BSD & Linux Mirrored on kirk.bu.oz.au (David J. Hughes) Re: Booting Linux from a Hard Disk (Charles Hedrick) Re: gcc2.1 -- where can I get it? (Michael Hamilton) Re: gcc2.1 -- where can I get it? (Michael Hamilton) Re: lp patches and laser printers (Al Clark) Re: linux usefulness? (Charles Hedrick) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zlsiial@uts.mcc.ac.uk (A. V. Le Blanc) Subject: False report of mounted disk change Date: 1 Apr 92 13:10:05 GMT Has anyone else seen a rather irritating problem with the kernel, that the message 'Mounted disk changed - tssk, tssk' is sometimes printed soon after mounting a disk? -- Owen LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk ------------------------------ From: zlsiial@uts.mcc.ac.uk (A. V. Le Blanc) Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux Subject: Re: fdisk -- please try this Date: 1 Apr 92 07:03:52 GMT In article <4694@mccuts.uts.mcc.ac.uk> I wrote: >I am now ready to release my fdisk for testing. The file >/pub/linux/mcc-bin/fdisk-0.9.tar.Z available by anonymous >ftp from hpb.mcc.ac.uk (and mirrored at banjo.concert.net) >contains the source (fdisk.c), a Makefile, an executable >compiled with gcc 1.40... On my way home, I realised that in making one last minute change to the source, I introduced a bug (actually two bugs). In consequence, fdisk-0.91.tar.Z should now be available from the usual sites without this added feature. Moral: Don't release software at the end of a long day! -- Owen LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk ------------------------------ From: zlsiial@uts.mcc.ac.uk (A. V. Le Blanc) Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux Subject: Re: fdisk -- please try this Date: 1 Apr 92 07:03:52 GMT In article <4694@mccuts.uts.mcc.ac.uk> I wrote: >I am now ready to release my fdisk for testing. The file >/pub/linux/mcc-bin/fdisk-0.9.tar.Z available by anonymous >ftp from hpb.mcc.ac.uk (and mirrored at banjo.concert.net) >contains the source (fdisk.c), a Makefile, an executable >compiled with gcc 1.40... On my way home, I realised that in making one last minute change to the source, I introduced a bug (actually two bugs). In consequence, fdisk-0.91.tar.Z should now be available from the usual sites without this added feature. Moral: Don't release software at the end of a long day! -- Owen LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk ------------------------------ From: zlsiial@uts.mcc.ac.uk (A. V. Le Blanc) Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux Subject: Re: where is dd??? Date: 1 Apr 92 12:48:30 GMT In article <1992Mar31.210817.14098@morrow.stanford.edu> harlick@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Will Clark) writes: > >I've seen people post about using dd to write to a floppy, but I can't >find it on tsx-11. dd is one of the GNU fileutils. Binary versions can be found in linux/bin/fileutils.tar.Z at nic.funet.fi (/pub/OS/Linux/bin) and at mirror sites (banjo.concert.net, hpb.mcc.ac.uk). A set of patches for the latest fileutils (3.1) can be found in linux/mcc-interim/patches/filuti31.tar.Z on hpb.mcc.ac.uk and in its mirror at banjo.concert.net. -- Owen LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk ------------------------------ From: zlsiial@uts.mcc.ac.uk (A. V. Le Blanc) Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux Subject: Re: where is dd??? Date: 1 Apr 92 12:48:30 GMT In article <1992Mar31.210817.14098@morrow.stanford.edu> harlick@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Will Clark) writes: > >I've seen people post about using dd to write to a floppy, but I can't >find it on tsx-11. dd is one of the GNU fileutils. Binary versions can be found in linux/bin/fileutils.tar.Z at nic.funet.fi (/pub/OS/Linux/bin) and at mirror sites (banjo.concert.net, hpb.mcc.ac.uk). A set of patches for the latest fileutils (3.1) can be found in linux/mcc-interim/patches/filuti31.tar.Z on hpb.mcc.ac.uk and in its mirror at banjo.concert.net. -- Owen LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk ------------------------------ From: steve@sc75.fiveg.icl.co.uk (Steve Pate) Subject: Linux - English pronunciation Date: 1 Apr 92 13:20:47 GMT Appologies for this simple question.....but.... How is Linux pronounced? a) As it reads -> L-in-ux or b) L-ie-nux ---Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1992 19:40:00 -0500 From: "Alex R.N. Wetmore" Subject: Re: What is linux? Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.linux: 1-Apr-92 Re: What is linux? by Drew Eckhardt@ladymacb.c > Yes. However, unlike BSD it will coexist with other operating systems > on the same physical disk, and it is possible to non-destructively > repartition under Messy-Loss. How can you repartition ms-dos drives without loosing info? is this some part of dos 5 that i missed? alex ------------------------------ From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser) Subject: linux usefulness? Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1992 01:00:45 GMT Is Linux to the point where it is "useful" yet? i.e. can normal multi-user operation occur? Can it operate on a SCSI disk? -- bill@unixland.natick.ma.us ...!uunet!{think,world}!unixland!bill Public Access UNIX / USENET / E-MAIL Accounts are available! (508) 655-3848 5 lines - Located in Natick, MA USA Supporting V.32/PEP/V.42bis, etc. ------------------------------ From: rivers@ponds.uucp (Thomas David Rivers) Subject: Re: taylor-uucp and smail Date: 2 Apr 92 01:08:26 GMT In trying to do the same, I discovered that strtok() in linux was damaged. I was able to get most of taylor uucp going by replacing the inline assembly code with a C version (taken from the net.) Unfortunately, I was unable to get a reasonable connection going, so I gave up... (I sent a note to linus detailing the problem, I don't know if the new strtok() got implemented in the 0.95 libraries. If anyone wants to give taylor-uucp another try, let me know and I'll mail you the strtok() I used.) - Dave Rivers - ------------------------------ From: Epstein@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL Subject: Re: ST-506 and IDE Reply-To: Epstein@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1992 04:13:53 GMT I have run Linux-0.12 with DTC7287 RLL controller as primary (16 bit with interrupt) with Linux partitions and IDE ST3144A as secondardy controller by using a SILICONE VALLEY (sic) ADP-60 LIB/LIBF IDE host Adapter with re-initialization BIOS. MS-DOS operates off both disks and Linux off the first RLL controller. I partially worked of running Linux off both controllers. I believe the ADP-60 operates by polling without using the HD interrupt. I was on an extended business trip and didn't finish making a hd-sec.c for the IDE. I presently am running Linux-0.95a from the IDE as primary with the RLL off line (only using 125MB with 62MB off-line (-: ) If you have a XT type controller [8 bits and hence no interrupt, since the HD interrupt is on the 16 bit extension part], a regular IDE host adapter will work. If you have a AT type controller with interrupt, it must be the primary with the ADP-60 as secondary. Cindy at tech support at Hard Drive INternational was very helpful when I bought the IDE. She looked up to see that the DTC7287 might work with the ADP-60. I have not called to see how the ADP-60 works have dis-assembled the code and have System BIOS book (Second edition) from Phoenix Technology (publ Addison-Wesley) ISBN 0-201-57760-7 When Linux hd.c stabalizes will definitely use both drives especially if somebody else writes hd-sec.c :-) ------------------------------ From: joel@wam.umd.edu (Joel M. Hoffman) Subject: Re: What is linux? Date: 2 Apr 92 03:53:40 GMT In article <4dqZTUK00aw=09xJEH@andrew.cmu.edu> "Alex R.N. Wetmore" writes: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.linux: 1-Apr-92 Re: What is linux? by Drew >Eckhardt@ladymacb.c >> Yes. However, unlike BSD it will coexist with other operating systems >> on the same physical disk, and it is possible to non-destructively >> repartition under Messy-Loss. > >How can you repartition ms-dos drives without loosing info? is this >some part of dos 5 that i missed? Basically, you defragment the drive, so all of the empty space is at the end, and then just change the partition table. And the FAT table. And some other things.... There was a detailed post on this about a month and a half ago, I believe. In princip~ql it's easy. In practice, it's difficult. Of course, you should still backup your HD unless you don't really mind losing all of your data. And don't forget to back up your data. -Joel ------------------------------ From: wjb@cogsci.cog.jhu.edu (Bill Bogstad) Subject: Which compiler(s) should I use to compile the kernel??? Date: 2 Apr 92 03:26:11 GMT I finally managed to get Linux reasonably well installed on my machine, compiled mtools so I can transfer files more easily, and now I want to try some more serious hacking. I'm trying to compile the linux 0.95a OS and its unclear which compiler I should be using. I curently have both "newgcc (1.40)" and "2misc/2lib (2.0)". "newgcc" has some problems compiling certain files, but my impression is that "2misc/2lib" is "experimental". Also, does anybody have a file transfer program with the ZMODEM protocol running under Linux? Thanks, Bill Bogstad ------------------------------ From: boyer@sumax.seattleu.edu (Chuck Boyer) Subject: Joe editor. Date: 2 Apr 92 04:06:19 GMT Thanks, whoever compiled 'Joe/e' text editor under Linux 0.95a. It works just fine. This will be the editor that I will suggest for 'beginners' to the Linux/unix world. I am going to be working on remapping the keypads for 101-keyboards to be WordPerfect like in some respects..... 'F5' key=list files/dir listing/cwd... And this is what they will be able to use if they choose. Thankyou once again. ------------------------------ From: peterw@archsci.arch.su.oz.au (Peter Williams 8169821) Subject: advice/proposal on the lp patch Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1992 00:13:53 GMT According to the documentation comments in lp.c/.h machines are expected to return either 0 or the byte sent during initialization in lp_init if the port exists. This has not proved to be the case for at least two machines (the OCT33Mhz and the Gateway 2000 25Mhz) which returned 170 and 11 respectively. Both machines reliably returned 255 from nonexistent ports. If this is also the case for other machines then a test for the returned byte not being 255 may be a more universally acceptable test for the existence of a port. -- Peter Williams |e-mail: peterw@archsci.arch.su.oz.au Key Centre for Design Quality |phone: +61-2-692 2053 or +61-2-660 6156 University of Sydney |+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------ From: mper@uipsuxb.ps.uiuc.edu (Michael Pereckas) Subject: Re: swapping, how to enable? Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1992 04:13:55 GMT To summerize: mkswap does not actually create the swapfile. First a swapfile of suitable size must be created, then mkswap run on it, then swapon run. Thanks to those who responded. I'd like to add that I'm very excited about linux. It is an ideal system to experiment with. Big enough to run large programs like tex an emacs, but small enough to run on a machine with limited memory and disk. Michael Pereckas ------------------------------ From: bambi@bu.oz.au (David J. Hughes) Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd,alt.os.linux,aus.archives,aus.sources Subject: 386BSD & Linux Mirrored on kirk.bu.oz.au Date: 2 Apr 92 04:58:49 GMT I have added a complete mirror of the Linux distribution from nic.funet.fi to the archive on kirk.bu.oz.au. To keep a logical structure for the archive, the mirror of the 386BSD distribution has been moved. The location of the mirrors are :- Hostname : kirk.bu.oz.au IP Address : 131.244.1.1 Contact : bambi@bu.oz.au 386BSD Path : /pub/OS/386BSD <<---- (** New location **) Linux Path : /pub/OS/Linux Please remember that this machine is in ** AUSTRALIA ** and as such is for users on AARNet (the Australian Network). Users from countries other than Australia should use a more local site. bambi ___ David J. Hughes bambi@bu.oz.au / \ / / / / __/ __ __ ____/ / / __ Senior Network Programmer / \ / \ / \ / / / / / \ / Comms Development & Operation \____/ \__// / \__/ \___/ / / / AUSTRALIA (+61 75 951450) ------------------------------ From: bambi@bu.oz.au (David J. Hughes) Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd,alt.os.linux,aus.archives,aus.sources Subject: 386BSD & Linux Mirrored on kirk.bu.oz.au Date: 2 Apr 92 04:58:49 GMT I have added a complete mirror of the Linux distribution from nic.funet.fi to the archive on kirk.bu.oz.au. To keep a logical structure for the archive, the mirror of the 386BSD distribution has been moved. The location of the mirrors are :- Hostname : kirk.bu.oz.au IP Address : 131.244.1.1 Contact : bambi@bu.oz.au 386BSD Path : /pub/OS/386BSD <<---- (** New location **) Linux Path : /pub/OS/Linux Please remember that this machine is in ** AUSTRALIA ** and as such is for users on AARNet (the Australian Network). Users from countries other than Australia should use a more local site. bambi ___ David J. Hughes bambi@bu.oz.au / \ / / / / __/ __ __ ____/ / / __ Senior Network Programmer / \ / \ / \ / / / / / \ / Comms Development & Operation \____/ \__// / \__/ \___/ / / / AUSTRALIA (+61 75 951450) ------------------------------ From: hedrick@dartagnan.rutgers.edu (Charles Hedrick) Subject: Re: Booting Linux from a Hard Disk Date: 2 Apr 92 04:55:01 GMT joel@wam.umd.edu (Joel M. Hoffman) writes: >Is a copy of /vmunix available somewhere, or does one have to compile it >from the sources? /vmunix is simply the bootimage. It's the same file you would copy to the floppy. ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux Subject: Re: gcc2.1 -- where can I get it? From: hamilton@peponi.wcc.govt.nz (Michael Hamilton) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1992 20:49:04 GMT In article <1992Apr1.151856.24216@athena.mit.edu> mcollom@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Bryan Collom) writes: > >Many people seem to be using gcc2.1 under linux. Can someone >please list the ftp sites where I can get gcc2.1 for linux? I >searched through the old alt.os.linux postings, but I could not >find where to get gcc2.1 > >Thanks, > >Bryan Collom >mcollom@cs.unt.edu I strongly suspect that /pub/linux/binaries/compilers/gcc-2.0 at tsx-11.mit.edu does in fact contain gcc-2.1. I've grabbed the 2misc.tar.Z yesterday, and the FAQ INSIDE the tar, talks about 2.1, not 2.0. I haven't had a chance to unpack everything, so this is as much as I can speculate. The FAQ says you need a 387 OR linux above 0.95 (so I don't think you need a 387). I too am at a bit of a loss as to where people are getting their info. Is there some other group I should be reading? -- ________________ Michael Hamilton, Computer Services Section, Wellington City Council, P.O. Box 2199, Wellington, New Zealand. Phone: (64) (4)801-3300 FAX: (64) (4)801-3020 Domain: hamilton@csc.wcc.govt.nz PSImail: PSI%0530147000090::HAMILTON ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux Subject: Re: gcc2.1 -- where can I get it? From: hamilton@peponi.wcc.govt.nz (Michael Hamilton) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1992 20:49:04 GMT In article <1992Apr1.151856.24216@athena.mit.edu> mcollom@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Bryan Collom) writes: > >Many people seem to be using gcc2.1 under linux. Can someone >please list the ftp sites where I can get gcc2.1 for linux? I >searched through the old alt.os.linux postings, but I could not >find where to get gcc2.1 > >Thanks, > >Bryan Collom >mcollom@cs.unt.edu I strongly suspect that /pub/linux/binaries/compilers/gcc-2.0 at tsx-11.mit.edu does in fact contain gcc-2.1. I've grabbed the 2misc.tar.Z yesterday, and the FAQ INSIDE the tar, talks about 2.1, not 2.0. I haven't had a chance to unpack everything, so this is as much as I can speculate. The FAQ says you need a 387 OR linux above 0.95 (so I don't think you need a 387). I too am at a bit of a loss as to where people are getting their info. Is there some other group I should be reading? -- ________________ Michael Hamilton, Computer Services Section, Wellington City Council, P.O. Box 2199, Wellington, New Zealand. Phone: (64) (4)801-3300 FAX: (64) (4)801-3020 Domain: hamilton@csc.wcc.govt.nz PSImail: PSI%0530147000090::HAMILTON ------------------------------ From: aclark@netcom.com (Al Clark) Subject: Re: lp patches and laser printers Date: 1 Apr 92 07:01:41 GMT In article <1992Mar31.074944.23190@socrates.umd.edu> cm445a17@socrates.umd.edu (cm445a17) writes: >Has anyone used the lp patches witha laser printer? Last night I >successfully applied the lp patches on Linux .095a with the ps .095 >patches already installed. Once I reboted, it told me that I have >lp1 and lp2, so I went ahead and made the devices for them. My dot >matrix printer worked fine (lp1), but my laser (lp2) worked but >each line was flushed to the right by the size of the previous line. >For example, >input: >This is line 1 >Line 2 >This is the last line > >output: >This is line 1 > Line 2 > This is the last line > >Does anybody know why this is happening????????? >Thanks, > >Jaime Jofre You are outputting the file just as it is on disk; the record separator is a line feed. I hacked the following together to use until somebody puts together a printer daemon. It just prints a list of files, adding CR's to LF's. /* * print.c: Copywrite (92) Al Clark: distribute freely, don't restrict. * use lp modified linux kernel; print files changing LF to CR LF. * change LP to be your printer, as reported at boot. */ #include #include #include #define LP "/dev/lp0" FILE *lp; int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { int i; lp = fopen(LP,"w"); if (!lp) { fprintf(stderr,"%s: Can't open\n", LP); exit(1); } if (argc != 1) for (i=1; iIs Linux to the point where it is "useful" yet? i.e. can normal multi-user >operation occur? Yes. The 0.95a release includes init, getty, and login. I'm not sure what performance would be like with lots of users banging away, but it certainly will go multiuser. ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Activists-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux) via: Internet: Linux-Activists@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux tupac-amaru.informatik.rwth-aachen.de pub/msdos/replace The current version of Linux is 0.95a released on March 17, 1992 End of Linux-Activists Digest ******************************